tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post1596034855197051736..comments2024-03-11T06:06:17.917-05:00Comments on Ellen Anne Eddy's Thread Magic Studio: To Kit or Not to Kit: A Teacher's DilemmaEllen Anne Eddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03884881913053881049noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-36517663922127474012011-11-26T10:58:03.106-06:002011-11-26T10:58:03.106-06:00I always prefer the option. If I take a class I wa...I always prefer the option. If I take a class I want the finished work to look like I did it even though it is the teacher's techniques.Janice PDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07627735016408777385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-4712840990868434152011-11-26T10:58:03.105-06:002011-11-26T10:58:03.105-06:00oops, to clarify a little....if I use my own dyed ...oops, to clarify a little....if I use my own dyed fabrics and the color palette I normally use, it will be more 'mine'Janice PDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07627735016408777385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-73694561047485204892011-11-26T11:18:06.559-06:002011-11-26T11:18:06.559-06:00Seems like your kit mostly includes "tools&qu...Seems like your kit mostly includes "tools" and still leaves lots of room for creative variables. That sounds fine. I'll bet you know about price variables in time ti get out an e-mail. . . Also, it'd be easier to schlep an extra kit or two than a whole bolt of stabilizer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-90364191492470322212011-11-26T11:23:45.102-06:002011-11-26T11:23:45.102-06:00I like to have the kit as an option - some speaker...I like to have the kit as an option - some speakers/teachers require the kit - but it's better to make it an option - that way people don't feel they're being put in a corner. I ALWAYS buy the kit - most of the time - I buy several if they are in different colorways. I understand the cost of things and don't mind the price increase. But I'm different than most guild members. There is always those guild members who insist on the best speakers and workshops and then they don't attend and if they see the word "kit" - they run. I LOVE kits.Nikkihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11676300590068103215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-62798315427255976282011-11-26T12:07:03.724-06:002011-11-26T12:07:03.724-06:00I like the teacher to bring for sale the unusual s...I like the teacher to bring for sale the unusual supplies separately vs a kit. That way I can pick and choose what I want/need to buy, esp the stuff that is not easily found locally. That way you can price them at the going rate. I don't like the fabric/embellishments to be in a required kit so we all walk away with the same looking project.<br><br>If it's a wonderful teacher and there is a required complete kit I'll still take the class but the project will probably never get finished. I'll just be taking the class for techniques learned ... which is what it's all about to me anyhow.Charlottehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06840090253581248681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-45978649301374272742011-11-26T12:42:17.730-06:002011-11-26T12:42:17.730-06:00As a student I would never sign up for a class tha...As a student I would never sign up for a class that required me to buy a kit from the teacher - to me that's already a form of limitation on my own creativity which is always operating even if I am just learning a new technique. I've been around for while and probably have plenty of things at home that could do as well as teacher-supplied kit stuff. I'd rather take that along, and be prepared to pay a small materials fee for something like, in this case, the teacher's preferred stabiliser, so essential to Ellen's particular techniques. And as a teacher, I don't want the kit-dependent student in my classes, either. Gathering materials for a project is part of the overall project, and removing the student from that process denies them a valuable decision making opportunity.alison schwabehttp://www.alisonschwabe.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-44353013410761659512011-11-26T13:27:17.918-06:002011-11-26T13:27:17.918-06:00I think it depends, somewhat, on the class... and ...I think it depends, somewhat, on the class... and also where the class is to be given. I live in a place where we have no access to thread, fabric or other goodies. Buying materials requires either an online purchase or a day long trip to the mainland for shopping. <br><br>My preference is to be able to buy the supplies from the teacher after culling what I wanted from my own stash (from the class materials list).<br>We are thrilled when a teacher brings lots of things for sale and, invariable, I believe the teacher sells a lot of product when they come to here to teach.<br><br>I have many friends who really prefer a materials kit - making it easy for them to focus on learning the specific technique from the teacher using the technique specific materials. If the materials are available for sale at the time of the class they buy what they want, take the sample home and begin using it in their own interpretations. I can understand a preference for this method too.<br><br>Bottom line - being able to buy supplies from a teacher is the most important ingredient for those of us who live in "materials' hinterlands!Marie Z. Johansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09099656264060749484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-41655417472244733352011-11-26T14:41:54.226-06:002011-11-26T14:41:54.226-06:00Ellen, I used to hate the idea of kits, but now wo...Ellen, I used to hate the idea of kits, but now would choose the use of them. I take a class to learn techniques and for inspiration and I rarely finish the projects. So I'd prefer not to have to dig around in the studio and then lug all the things I think I can do without to class. The fee would not matter.Lindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-29067937022847960972011-11-26T14:54:41.645-06:002011-11-26T14:54:41.645-06:00Being a teacher that offers customized kits, (yes ...Being a teacher that offers customized kits, (yes this takes much more time) I like to offer kit optional. This way a person new to crazy quilting does not have to run out and buy 15 fancy fabrics, embroidery threads, beads, sequins, laces and trims to take a class they may or may not (rarely ever) enjoy enough to use up their new stash supply. My kits include everything however the student is invited to bring anythng they might have and want to work with. I make every kit different, no two ever alike. Kits are nice to offer, I just wish the students knew the actual time teachers spend putting them together to ensure a fun no stress class.<br>PatPat Winterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13059339623003211397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-16904066262651000462011-11-26T15:02:55.576-06:002011-11-26T15:02:55.576-06:00I have taken classes from you Ellen, once in my ow...I have taken classes from you Ellen, once in my own city and once about 12 hours drive from here - Both times I brought just about everything I owned that I thought would be useful in class - as did you. I would definitely be open to kits and welcome them. Many of the people in the classes I took from you didn't have the materials, threads, or other items needed. I think more "newbies" would sign up for classes if kits were available, but not required.0b1d4cdc-d8c6-11e0-8f7d-000bcdcb5194https://openid.aol.com/opaque/0b1d4cdc-d8c6-11e0-8f7d-000bcdcb5194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-89474106335266943212011-11-26T23:12:23.075-06:002011-11-26T23:12:23.075-06:00I like the idea of bringing kits with basic or har...I like the idea of bringing kits with basic or hard to find supplies, but would also provide a list of needed items for those who have more extensive stashes. I'm like some of the other posters, I have a lot of supplies, but if I don't have it, I'd have to order it. For something I might not need again, I'd rather get small amounts of supplies in a kit, instead. I'd suggest an estimated cost for the kit, and estimate on the higher end of what you think it might cost.Vicki Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01096177015804957565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-7526080941488220052011-11-27T05:57:44.005-06:002011-11-27T05:57:44.005-06:00You teach a fairly unique procedure and product an...You teach a fairly unique procedure and product and people are coming to your class to learn how to do it. Your process is not quick.<br>I think that in that situation, a kit helps BUT I think the price needs to be preset.Sybilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-32857737128825439782011-11-27T12:03:03.607-06:002011-11-27T12:03:03.607-06:00I have taken a class from you (wonderful!)because ...I have taken a class from you (wonderful!)because even though I have my own version of Thread Painting, you are the master and I did learn quite a bit (thank you!). In my experience, optional kits will sell very well and students will be very glad you brought them. There are always a few who, for one reason or another, do not have the things required or recommended for a particular class and at the last minute realize 'oh! we need this stuff?'. Then there are the ones who figure, if there is a kit available with the recommended supplies and they don't already own them, they would rather just purchase that than hunt all over for them. For me, I had everything needed for the class, so I was able to buy those gorgeous fabrics and threads you have hand dyed so beautifully, and one of those lovely wood hoops.Angelanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-23467804710349052762011-11-27T12:38:17.659-06:002011-11-27T12:38:17.659-06:00Hi Ellen, I love having the option of a kit, since...Hi Ellen, I love having the option of a kit, since I'm there for the learning experience, not necessarily for a finished product. A slight price variance would not bother me, especially since you would be giving advance notice that circumstances might cause that to happen. Although sometimes I might prefer to bring my own tools and supplies, it is very often more convenient to work from a kit. Thanks for the opportunity to put in our 2 cents' worth!Linda Teddlie Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05051700373576759351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-44220549754285375952011-11-27T13:52:52.080-06:002011-11-27T13:52:52.080-06:00Hi Ellen--_I think that kitting or not depends on ...Hi Ellen--_I think that kitting or not depends on the venue where you are teaching. If you are teaching in a well stocked shop maybe you do not kit. I like to know what the kit costs before I take a class. I would rather that you put some padding into your price to allow for inflation/shipping increases, than suddenly be surprised with a price increase the day of class. I would wonder why the change even though it was mentioned; plus some venues e.g. Quilts Inc. have students pay kit fees at the time they enroll for classes. I would suggest having kits in venues where the items are not readily available, or at ;east having kits containing the hard to find stuff.California Fiber artist and composernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777263724982522569.post-86285462991507504742011-11-29T02:35:09.465-06:002011-11-29T02:35:09.465-06:00Ellen, I love it when a kit is provided. No matte...Ellen, I love it when a kit is provided. No matter how much information I have on a course I always manage to leave something important at home. It doesn't worry me if the colours/materials etc are not what I would have chosen, I find I always refer back to what I made or learnt when working on another project. Perhaps when a student enrols in a course you could give them the option of a kit or not, then you would know how many to put together before the class begins.Joy Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18370241122283127366noreply@blogger.com